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Attention: Please be very careful about the use of words in your posts. It is not acceptable to make claims that such and such is a scam - because such and such might not be a scam and could sue us for libel.

On the other hand, it is OK for you to state the facts, that you did this or got that reply, etc. It would not be a fact to say that such and such is a scam but it would be a fact to say that I sent off my money 3 weeks ago but have still not had any work.

Some posts already posted have been subject to purple edits whereby I have tried to take out what could be construed as unfair or libellous statements without losing the context of the discussion.

Thank you for your understanding!

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Baggiesfan81
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Posted From: 195.93.21.104
Posted on Wednesday, 30 March, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi all, just joined and found the threads on pathway driving services. wish i'd read this a month ago! like many others it seems i sent off my cheque (cashed long ago) and have heard nothing since. nobody answers the phone and can't seem to get in touch with them. am thinking of writing to ask for my money back, however unlikely it may be to happen. will let you know if i hear anything.
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Caroline
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Posted on Wednesday, 30 March, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello, hello! :-)

Thanks for posting here and sharing your experiences. I'm sorry I can't point you to any posts from people saying how pleased they are that they found Pathway and all the work they have been doing.

Please contact Trading Standards as soon as possible for advice and let us know in due course. I'm sure any reputable company would be delighted to have a clean bill of health from Trading Standards!
Caroline (Tresman)
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Caroline
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Posted on Wednesday, 30 March, 2005 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh and just in case anyone is concerned about new members here having the same IP address let me just reassure you. It is a little foible with AOL users and the way AOL works.

This link at AOL is all double dutch but it might help! Googling for +aol +"IP Address" will bring up many Forums/web pages where this has been mentioned or slightly dicussed but none have a definitive explanation.
Caroline (Tresman)
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Tinlizzie
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Posted on Wednesday, 30 March, 2005 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Charlie

My letter also says that. I only found the site on Saturday, too late for me as well.

Liz
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Caroline
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Posted on Thursday, 31 March, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone pay by credit card?

If you pay for anything by credit card you really need to be sure that your credit card details are being treated in a responsible way which usually means feeling happy about whoever has your details.

In any situation that you have second thoughts about, a phone call to your credit card company should put your mind at rest.
Caroline (Tresman)
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Kenweston
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Posted From: 195.92.168.167


Posted on Thursday, 31 March, 2005 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can I just add to Caroline's message that this applies equally to Debit Cards, but in this case contact your bank if you have doubts.
It is possibly a wise precaution to write to your bank, too and ensure that no payments are made without your signature authorising the payment.
Ken
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Kenweston
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Post Number: 834
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Posted on Tuesday, 05 April, 2005 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AND FINALLY?

I have received a message today from someone who has visited the Milton Keynes address of Pathway Driving Services.
He discovered that Pathway had vacated the premises several days ago, and had not provided a forwarding address.
I am told there is a quantity of mail addresed to Pathway which the building management will be returning to Royal Mail, as undeliverable, and which will doubtless end up back with the senders in the fullness of time. It seems, too, that there have been a goodly number of people calling and enquiring for Pathway.
Should any of our members be considering this step, I suggest that since it seems that it would be a totally fruitless journey, I recommend that you don't waste your time and effort.

Homeworking.com has been advised that any members of the forum, or anybody else for that matter, who wish to persue any complaint or claim against Pathway should contact their local Trading Standards office, with all the relevfant details.
Information and enquiries will then be passed on to the Milton Keynes area Trading Standard people, to be dealt with.

This would seem to be the end of Pathway as far as this forum is concerned.
As regards ConstaCheck, for the present we have no information, and we assume they continue to trade as before.
Ken
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Baggiesfan81
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Posted on Monday, 11 April, 2005 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently contacted my local Trading Standards with some onfo on Pathway and asked where we stood. Here was the reply.

"Good morning

Unfortunately the situation that has occurred falls within Civil law, you have done the correct thing by writing to them, send it recorded delivery and keep a copy.

Even if they have disappeared it will be difficult to get your money back, I have reviewed this matter with our enforcement section and it doesn't fall into criminality, and thus its not an enforcement issue.

All I can suggest is to write to them and see if that helps, subsequently I'd be happy to write to them for you, however they are not obliged to respond to me either.

I trust this clarifies the matter"

From this response i gather it's ok for a company to advertise and promise you work, ask you to pay a fee, then vanish without trace. Doesn't look too good for us poor fools who trusted them does it?
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Caroline
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Posted on Monday, 11 April, 2005 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good grief. This is beyond the pale.

This is a ridiculous situation whereby we are all tied by legalities and so-called working within the law, meanwhile people are able to do what they like, promise what they like, charge what they like, don't come up with the goods and then have the law on its side. Very sad state of affairs.
Caroline (Tresman)
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Shrek
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Posted on Thursday, 14 April, 2005 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me if constacheck is being investigated or if anyone has managed to speak to them?, pathway has gone, with the work it never had, my registered letter has been returned 'addressee unknown', and the money collection part of pathway or constacheck as it would be better known seems to be unreachable. As a fraud appears to have been committed does anyone know whether you can get a refund if payment was made by credit card?
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Millysoo
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Posted on Thursday, 14 April, 2005 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Appearances are so subjective, but if the fact is that you never received the service you paid for, I think many credit card companies have insurance against that, but it would be a matter of checking with your own.
Cheryl
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Caroline
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Posted on Thursday, 14 April, 2005 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Technically it might not be a fraud and this is where the law is insufficient. You might rightly say that you have not received a service but it could be said that Constacheck were not specific and therefore provided the "service" paid for, whilst what did anyone pay Pathway? Not a penny because they did not charge for their service which they could argue they were delayed from providing.

It is one sick joke. Someone emailed me yesterday to say that she had given up her job to join Pathway and now they were financially stuck.

Cheryl is right about contacting your credit card company - you should anyway because these people have had your credit card details and it is not clear where they are now.

Meanwhile everyone involved must follow-up for themselves. Contact your local Trading Standards (TS) and ask them to refer on your case to the Milton Keynes branch. Keep your cool and don't lose your anger with TS - we need to keep them on-side. Keep factual but also include the personal impact this has had on you. Get together your dates and any paperwork, and notes of days/times you have tried to phone.

Keep telling us here too, remembering to keep to the facts.
Caroline (Tresman)
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Steve_r
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Posted on Thursday, 14 April, 2005 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone else had the letter from PDS moaning about 'various untrue comments made about Pathway Driving Services on the internet'?
They say that they will refund any monies spent, but intend to get up and running 'in the very near future'.
Does anyone believe them?
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Caroline
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Posted on Thursday, 14 April, 2005 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah yes.... these comments on the internet that are affecting their business.

Apart from the codforum, where else have people seen discussions of this business? I'd be interested to know. But from my research, I've not found much else apart from this Forum.

As for "untrue" comments I am not sure. People have been saying what their experience is. Are we having such a level of restricted speech that people are not able to ask questions?

Things have been said on this Forum before and I've been threatened with all sorts of libel. We try to keep discussions to the facts but that is not always possible, and when someone has contacted me with an issue about something that has been said, then following a brief exchange of emails it has always been amicably dealt with.

No-one from Pathway or Constacheck has contacted me. Nor their legal representative. No-one.

As for whether what is written here would affect the hundreds of courier companies who were going to be putting business towards Pathway then as much as I think this website is brilliant with 1,000s of visitors each day, whether a fraction of them find their way to this Thread, it is but a mere drop in the ocean of the internet.

The only people who might be affected by these discussions are those thinking of paying money to a curious personal checking company of whom it is not clear what they are actually checking.

How can that affect what business comes into Pathway and therefore what work is passed on?

Oh, and then there is the Pathway male escort service whose lucky selected candidates can go on their books once they have had their security checks with ..... Constacheck.

Hmm, I think I fancy a male escort tonight, but I can't seem to find that Hers magazine where I can see Pathway Escorts listed. Can anyone help me as I'm feeling rather in need?!
Caroline (Tresman)
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Kenweston
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Posted From: 195.92.168.177


Posted on Thursday, 14 April, 2005 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those of you who are aggrieved because you have paid money to ConstaCheck might want to consider this.
We have investigated as far as we are able, and it was our pressure which seems to have prompted Pathway to disappear. We cannot, howeveer make any allegations of fraud, bcause we have not been the subject of any apparrent attempted fraud.

If you feel you have reasonable evidence that you have been defrauded then it might be an idea to contact your local police and present them with the evidence you have. They, and they alone can decide whether further investigation is warranted; whether there is the probability that fraud has been committed, and whether, in the event that a case is built and suspects detained there is a case to present to the Crown Prosecution Service which that service will accept and proceed with.
Equally, you can make a complaint through your local Trading Standards office.
We have no control over any of the bodies who may be investigationg these companies.
We have furnished information when we have been asked for it, but we are not party to any further information as to the progress of investigations.

I am sorry I can't give you any more precise news. It is not in our possession for us to give. I can only assume that enquiries are ongoing.

Meanwhile, please be warned that there are many 'opportunities' out there which are scams. Check thoroughly before you send anyone any money.

We will help where we can, but please remember, we are volunteers, and our time and resources are limited; and we do rely, too, on members giving us information.

Also please remember that we are not in a position to positively say that either Pathway or ConstaCheck were/are scams. We do not have evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
Ken
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Biggles
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Posted on Tuesday, 10 May, 2005 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Morning All,
I am new to forums and came across Homeworking as a result of guess what! yes thats right! being taken for a ride by Pathway. I too went through all the usual steps from application to a ConstaCheck P2 rating to cop out letter from Paul Arrow. I have now accepted that all is lost so now to move on.
I will be 70 this month I still lust after meaningful work. Hence I am looking for something a little less stressful than chasing the countryside and believe homeworking may be the answer. My working career has been interesting and varied - Sales, management, training in this country and abroad to name a few.
This forum certainly seems to be full of good ideas so I must persist.
Its nice to be on board.
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Caroline
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Posted on Tuesday, 10 May, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Biggles and welcome on board

Sorry to hear what happened to you recently - shows that the best of us can get fished in by these things.

Good luck with your research - sounds like you have lots of skills and experience you can utilise. Just a matter of deciding what would be most viable and what would please you to do.

And if on reading some of these messages here you have some sage advice then please do offer it up!

I look forward to hearing from you again :-)
Caroline (Tresman)
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Mike_george
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 149.254.51.79


Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like Pathway has been resurrected as Easy Drop (www.easy-drop.co.uk). Supposedly a trading name of Cracked IT Ltd but not registered at Companies House, and the domain was registered by Paul Arrow, a non-trading individual. The web site is promising work at an hour rate.
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Kenweston
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Post Number: 3123
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Posted From: 86.176.62.192


Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2010 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, Mike, it took them a while to get going again, but you can bet your life they are just as much scammers under the new name as they were as Pathway.
Maybe we need to get behind them again.
Ken
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Kenweston
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Post Number: 3124
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Posted From: 86.176.62.192


Posted on Thursday, 15 April, 2010 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike, a quick check shows this place to be the home of a firm called Mailboxes (who are a franchise outfit offering among other services accommodation addresses. What a surprise!

I did find the following quite amusing (my warped sense of humour again) - a felow 'tenant'.
>>> FraudWatch International Pty Ltd <<<
I wonder if they know who their neighbours are.

Clifford Street, by the way (and I do know York quite well) really doesn't have buildings which would go into such high numbers of suites, so this is probably the Mailboxes reference number.

Would-be couriers beware.
Ken
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