| Author | Message | ||
     Tracey |
I have 9 dogs and therefore require a job working from home which is proving extremely difficult to find.Please could anyone help I have a good level of education but am willing to do any type of homework. Kind regards Tracey First posted Oct 30th 1999 8:27 AM | ||
| Julie S |
Tracey, I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it again many times: If you look for "anything", you may get just "anything" and it will end up being "nothing". I'm sure you're worth more than "nothing" and when you want to work AT home, you have to decide what the work will be, when you can do it, where your 'space' will be located, why this is best for you (sounds like that question has already been answered!) and how you will proceed. Planning is everything. First posted Oct 30th 1999 4:54 PM | ||
| hudsongreen |
I JUST FOUND OUT THAT MY SON IS MENTALLY RETARED.I WANT TO BE CLOSE TO HOME IN ORDER TO ATTEND MEETINGS ABOUT HIM.MY CURRENT EMPLOYER DOES NOT WANT TO HELP.I AM WILLING TO DO ANY TYPE OF JOB.I ALSO HAVE A 8 MONTH OLD LITTLE GIRL | ||
| suews |
Sounds like this might be an emotional time for you. First thing - don't do anything when you are still in shock. Action, not reaction. Secondly, make contact with other parents in similar circumstances through local or national organisations. Thirdly, don't give up on your current employer - your suggestion probably come as a shock. Finally, PLAN AHEAD and think in the long term. What do you really need? Perhaps a month's sabbatical from work - or taking holiday leave - might be more helpful in the short term whilst you sort things out than leaving work and being at home (do you REALLY want to be at home all the time - work colleagues can provide a lot of social and moral support). Take care SueWS | ||
| chemicalfree35 |
Stacie, I agree with Sue...this is a very upsetting time in your life and when you say that you will do any type of home job just to stay at home...I just want to say be careful there are a lot of scams out there that are looking for people like you "are willing to do anything". To find a work at home job is almost impossible to find..Why? Just put yourself in an employers shoes--would you pay someone to work from home for eight hours if you didn't truly trust them? It takes a lot of trust between employer and employee to have a job like that..I am not going to say that it is totally impossible..If this is something that you would like to look into---Think about what you have to offer and contact these employers in your area and find out what their needs and wants are... Also, if you are thinking about starting a home business--it takes time here to to find the right one for you...There are a lot of scams in home businesses.. Something also to think about--Do you receive any type of benefits from your present job? For example insurance... This is also very important asset for your family too. All I am suggesting and I think Sue is too is don't let your emotions get in the way of your family...its a tough time right now. | ||
| suli |
HI, i am suli, i am 23 years of age, i have spent most of my life studying, mainly studying courses that don't lead to jobs. Also due to ongoing illnesses i had to drop university. With the illness it is difficult for me to find work, due to the problems i would have in the workplace. Previous student debts have also crippled me. So partly for both reasons i want to start working from home. However coming by Work,addresses, contacts have proved impossible, i suppose these are the cons of working from home. However for me the pros outweigh the cons. i know that most people start working form home after getting qualified and experienced in a workplace, but i am dedicated to give 100%. All i need is the opportunity so is there anyone out there that can help me, I would be eternally grateful | ||
| caroline |
Hello Suli Welcome to the Forum! I hope we can be of some help. First of all, and I think you realise this, no-one is going to offer you a job because it would be convenient for you. In some ways, homeworking is like any other work and you are just going to have to go after it. You have to be determined (which it sounds like you are) and you have to keep going even when you don't feel like it. You are right that the pros of working at home far outweigh the cons - as long as working at home really is the right thing for you. From what you have said, it sounds like you have done or started a variety of courses. Perhaps the time has come to consolidate all the bits of knowledge that you have. You probably have much more knowledge and skill than you realise. Everything happens for a reason so if you can apply that to your life to date it may help you to feel quite positive about all that you have achieved so far. (That applies to everyone!) Now, what on earth are you going to do for work at home? That answer will come from within you. Sure you can look through adverts which are excellent for giving you ideas but working at home is that chance to really do what you want to do. There are already lots of discussions in this Forum on the subject, and you need to take some time out to read all the free information on this website. Then you might consider enlisting the help of someone like a Coach or Mentor to help you find the right direction for you. We can recommend some names if you wish? What sort of courses have you done so far Suli? Caroline Moderator | ||
| suli |
Thankyou Caroline for replying, Well where can i start. As i have stated i have done courses that don't necessarly lead to jobs. The courses i have done were mainly academic rather than practical or hands on. Including Business Economics, Sociology and Communication Studies at A-Levels. At degree level at put my hand to law and politics majoring in the latter until my illness got worse. Now having looked into homeworking i have realised that people who are skilled and experienced in fields such as computing etc, or people who have worked in a workplace environment can transfer and diverse there skills and offer them as homeworking. With me that is something that i lack and that does not fill me with confidence in looking for homework. I cannot see the relevant skills i have obtained, offering any work from home. Seeing that i have no experience of putting these skills into practice. Anyway as you have stated it is a difficult road and in life nothing comes easy. I am dedicated enough to make a success and do whatever it takes. My illness has atleast taught me that. So i would be grateful if you could please provide me with names of some coaches or mentors. In the meantime are there any other people, addresses that i can contact so i can earn some money to aid my financial predicament. Again thankyou for replying Caroline. Suli | ||
| simon |
Hi Suli. What about making use of the skills you've been using while you've been studying. To study at degree level you must be able to do research effectivley, so why not try to capitalise on that. For example, have a look at www.freelancers.net. I'm sure I've seen the occasional research project pop-up on there. Best wishes - Simon | ||
| b2bscott |
Hi Suli: Don't know where you are located, but I'll give it a go from here in the USA. I use the classified ads to locate businesses who are looking for part time workers. They are the best candidates for you to work with. I watch for the ones who want someone less than 12-15 hours each week and offer special pricing if they use my services as part of a 'co-op' I started. Also, check the site called www.tjobs.com where you will find opportunities for writers and data entry projects. Just looking at some of these will help you to focus your skills and make some decisions. Let me know how that goes . . . Julie | ||
| suli |
cheers simon for your reply, after checking out the website i automatically found that more than 90% of the jobs they advertise require substantial qualifications and vast experience in the workplace environment for them to offer freelance work. However i have written to them outlining my predicament and am waiting for a reply, thanks for the help and further advice would be kindly appreciated. Julie thanks also for your advice, i found the website unbelievably informative on the different avenues for homeworking, unfortunately i live in the UK the website ofcourse catered for people in the US, if only the services they offered were available in the UK. Thanks anyway, further help would again be fully appreciated. | ||
| emmy |
Hi, my name is Emmy and I presently work full time for a book company. I work in customer field services and travel to all the schools in my county. I have two children who really need my attention and time after school and I am not there for them in my position. I am very committed to working from home so that I can be a mom to them and spend more time at home. I am not sure how I can translate those skills into a home based enterprise. I have a degree from years ago and can find my way around the computer and type. I would greatly appreciate ANY and all advice, direction, suggestions, etc. that any of you guys could offer. I am completely in the dark as to where to start or even look. | ||
| suli |
Hi Emmy, as you might already be aware, it is virtually impossible to find work from home. Unless you know of any local companies yourself. I fully appreciate your situation with young children. There plenty of institutions who you can write to eg the national group of homeworking in leeds, or ownbase in cheshire etc etc. However they will only provide you with info, on membership, how to avoid scams, general information on homeworking, but cannot provide addresses for jobs. I myself have been looking for some sort of homework for months. I would say either look for local firms yourself, by word of mouth who offer homework. The only other way is when people move to working from home when there respective companies offer them the choice for practical reasons, more and more firms are now doing this for practical reasons due to technological advances so you don't have to come into the office. The other advantage you have is you have some skill you can offer, which you can transfer into providing a small business offering your services. If you want to take this path contact your local business link or the princes trust etc for starting up help for business minded people. I would say again Emmy it is not easy finding homework, never send any money to homeworking schemes, believe me they are all scams. Ask your company whether they provide some homework, more and more people are doing telemarketing work form home for information on this contact the TCA at www.tca.org.uk. I hope you find something in the near future. If you need any more advice contact caroline the moderator. | ||
| suli |
Emmy i nearly forgot, outline your skills, contact your local business link or relevant authority. From there there business advisor should be able to help you, how to go about setting your own enterprise. Offering a skill is vitally important in this day and age. Let me know how you get on. SULI | ||
| michelle |
Hi, I am brand new here and have no idea what I am doing! I have decided over the last couple of months (due to some rather life changing experiences and realising that I need to be around before and after school for my son) that I am going to work from home, come what may. I currently work as a research analyst for an insurance company, have managed people, been on various courses for motivation etc., however none of these seem to fit with working from home. I am keen to do 'office type' work, however, live in a rural Lincolnshire market town and feel this could restrict me. Any help, ideas would be great and much appreciated. I am willing to branch out and widen my skills and views to help, even to the point of starting to build my own website when I take a rest from reading all of the fantastic info on this site. I have no idea what the site will be for yet, just feel it is a starting point. Basically I am saying HELP! | ||
| blue_sunflower |
Hiya, I want to market some stories that I have wrote. Does anyone know how I would go about doing that? Christina | ||
| suews |
Hi Michelle - I'm in deepest rural Lincolnshire, too! If the market town you mention is anywhere near Louth, come and have a cup of coffee and you shall have all the benefit of my three (?) years on Homeworking.com!!  SueWS Homeworking.com Network Marketing Specialist | ||
| b2bscott |
Christina: What is your intended audience for these stories? Are they well-written using good grammar, punctuation and spelling? If all of that is in order, there exists many markets for your stories! Go to the nearest library with pen and paper in hand and sit down with either (or both!) of the Writer's Market or Literary Marketplace. Both are the gems of the writing industry for books, publishers and every kind of magazine available today. If you don't have access to a local library, go online to www.writersmarket.com and take a one year subscription. I found it well-worthwhile to pay for the subscription and have access to this information when it was most convenient for me. You can print out the information that is most important and valuable for your purposes. Just a piece of free advice: Even when you are writing online to this forum or emails, etc., practice good writing skills. It may seem like a minor matter, but you will be taken more seriously as a writer! (Your message should have said 'written' rather than wrote. Be aware of this type of small item and your big break will fall into your lap.) My best wishes for you. Julie USA Forum Assistant | ||
| blue_sunflower |
Thank you Julie. For the website and for the free advice. I will contact you off-forum for more information and advice. Christina | ||
| michelle |
Evening folks, I have to say, it's a pity we can't get paid for reading all these messages, we could earn a fortune, and it's nice to see that I am not the only one reading well into the night! Sue, many thanks for your offer of coffee, I am in Holbeach, Lincs and apparently its approx 41 mile from me to you, figure it might be worth the journey for a chat. I have to say, since I posted my first message, I have spoken to more people generally re homework and have found more people than I realised, that I am in contact with daily are after the same kind of thing. Hence I have a couple of areas that I am looking into at the moment. If I find they are viable, I will post a message to let others know. Question here tho, how do I do this without it looking like spam? I don't want to get snipped!!! | ||
| suews |
Everywhere in Lincolnshire seems to be at least an hour away! It's the forgotten county and a homeworkers paradise!! Biggest acreage of any county I hear - and probably the smallest population! You're very welcome to come visit - you'll find my email address on www.motherwise.co.uk. If you are hesitant to post, you're probably right and it could get snipped - what to do is to ask Caroline, founder and moderator. And you'll find her via the home page of Homeworking.com. Good luck with your plans to work at home. Sue | ||
| caroline |
Following on to Julie's response to Christina above there have been quite a few personal enquiries to Julie so she has written a useful response that I will also add to the main Homeworking site in the section called Writing. Before I copy the item, I would also like to bring to your attention Julie's Learn to Earn online classes. Check them out! Caroline Editor Homeworking.com ***************************************** Due to the many emails I received after replying to Christina in this Forum, it seemed appropriate to update all the readers of this thread on the subject of writing. I will try to touch a bit on all of the specific questions that have come my way ... I mentioned two very good titles that are well-worth having at your fingertips if you plan to write seriously: Writer's Market and Literary Marketplace. One person asked me if there was a UK-specific version of either title. It appeared to him that both references were valuable no matter what your location. "I work with any publisher that will pay me for my work!! Although, the sources I have mentioned seem to be USA, they also include Canada and the UK. Many publishing houses have branches world-wide. It really doesn't matter where they are located because you won't be commuting to their physical facility anyway, right?" Another person wanted to enter the same field in which I found my 'success'! "This is an awesome compliment, but 'success' is a constant evolution resulting from small and attainable goals. There are those who don't even realize that they have been successful until someone writes their obituary. You must analyze your own personal strengths and weaknesses (know thyself) and then capitalize on your strengths. I do manuscript preparation for authors, write short fillers for local magazines and create puzzles and word scrambles for use by teachers in classroom situations." How do I find the time to practice my skill and then have time to actually do it seriously? I have to laugh a bit when I think that I used to take piano lessons. You need to make practice time for that - especially if you perform publicly. "Practice time for writers is not plotted out on a day calendar. It is part of everything you do all day... even the food-shopping list can be considered as writing practice. I get many emails every day and my 'practice' consists of writing answers to people from different walks of life. I also write reports for audits that I perform monthly - as my main bread-and-butter comes from writing activities in the financial field - especially for new and emerging home businesses. "I consider writing emails as very good practice for writing skills, especially since I don't have the time to practice otherwise! This is something that emerging writers will find out as time goes by. It is also the basis of my reply above to 'Christina' on 8 June 2002. Don't allow yourself to succumb to email shorthand or sloppy grammar as it will affect your serious writing in the long run." I have stories in my head about . . . "So do I. Not all of them are suitable for publication! There are also many aspects of writing that have nothing to do with writing the original story. Some aspects of writing actually draw on specific skills related to comprehension: copyediting, proofreading and indexing are three that come readily to mind. None of these will generate a huge income on its own, but the three of them together could prove to be quite satisfying." Marketing is a weak link in my array of skills. I'd rather do what I do best and leave the public relations to the experts. Okay. Do you know an expert who knows your skills better than you know them? Think about this. If you don't market your own work, will you be satisfied with the results of your selected 'professional'? "I sent out a letter on 25 August 2001 to 50 book packagers - the names of whom I found in Writer's Market. No responses were forthcoming and I went on about my daily business. "The letter I sent was short and may not have given enough information. There's nothing wrong with 'whetting the appetite' of your potential reader. Page 2 contained my qualifications; however, it was not a CV or a resume. It bluntly stated my education, followed by a listing of workshops and seminars I had attended and certificates I earned since leaving formal education. "The up-shot of this little story is that I received an email in mid-May of 2002 (ten months after the fact!) asking me if I could prepare an index for a co-authored work which was going to press in 1.5 weeks! On 29 May 2002, I received another email asking for my services for a series of short non-fiction books, the first two needed indexes and would be going to press 8 July 2002. The others would come later in the year. I took this contract. I did not take the first project. However, both of these requests came from sources who had received my information from one of the 50 contacts I had made last August!!" This brings me back full-cycle to my original comment: KNOW THYSELF! You really must be able to apply any type of skill and/or interest and multiply the results with the least consumption of time and effort, thereby achieving lasting results. Don't spend money unnecessarily. Use public resources whenever possible and visit your local free public library often. When you find a resource that appears to have lasting value, purchase it for your 'finger-tip' library at home. I found my two titles that way and purchased them online from Amazon.com. There is a link on Homeworking.com (Books) which will bring you to the largest bookstore on earth for UK and US purchases. I have no doubt in my mind that you can own any book, no matter where it is published, through this source. You can also read about the writing work world by going to profiles presented by writers at Writing Section as well as the stories written by home-based writer's at this USA site: www.bizymoms.com/ideas.html. I invite visitors to contact me personally at my email address below. However, please visit and absorb as much information from both of the sites named above and then go to some of the Bizymoms Chats, get their free newsletters and also keep posting here on the Homeworking Forum. Share your findings with others. No question is ever trivial and no observation would be considered too convoluted for a reply by visitors and specialists at this site. If you have the skills and the interest, you will find your 'bliss' in the writing world! Julie Scott USA Forum Assistant 11 June 2002 | ||
| wizzweb |
Michelle ..... I live just down the road from you ... Wisbech, but maybe an idea for you is bookkeeping. Not too difficult if you have a good neat head for figures. One thing I have started doing recently, is CVs. Not a major earner, but gets a few bob in. Maybe you could put an ad in your local paper or corner shop ..... take it just a stage further and offer an office service to small business's. Quite often the one man band has no one to do these little jobs. I know I didn't when I had a business about 10 years ago. Just a thought .... and the best of luck. Ken | ||
| suli |
don't want to sound to sceptical, but i feel that this website only offers people, different procedures, and advice on homeworking, pitfalls, scams etc etc etc that most people are already aware of. Nobody ever finds any homework on this site, hence i do not know why they call it that. Infact i think it is a pretty negative site for people in the UK looking for genuine homeworking opportunities | ||
| caroline |
Hello Suli Sorry to hear you sounding so down and sceptical about this website. Whilst few people find work on this website, very many gain a great deal and are better equipped to find real work at home and motivated in the right direction. There is nothing negative about this site but how you view it is negative. I recall you first started posting on this Forum in March of this year and I guess from the tone of your posting that you are feeling quite frustrated because you've not yet found work at home? Don't give up! It is not easy finding work at home but we never pretended it was. Unlike many scams who promise you ease of work and riches. I look forward to your response before continuing some more. All the best Caroline Editor - Homeworking.com | ||
| cmit |
Hi Caroline Not wishing to cause any upset but I have some sympathy with the poster. 1 There is a big difference between homeworkers and people who work from home, this site does not make that clear. 2 Your Rogues Gallery is not full of success stories, quite the opposite. 3 Most of the content here is to do with avoiding scams. There is little about setting up a successful business. 4 There are some references to multilevel marketing. I know that it isn't pyramid, but I would love to see proper explanation why. I am sure that you set this site up with the best intention but I am struggling to see what it really contributes to the current market. I look forward to hearing from you, and the opinion from the US. Colin | ||
| wizzweb |
I've been reading these comments with interest. My first impression was that the originator seemed to be blaming the site/Forum for the fact that there is no work for Suli to get. It's always been my policy that you have to go out there into that great big nasty world an seek what you are looking for. Tough! But there it is. As for Homeworking ...... to me that means you work from home! In whatever shape or form. I 'work' from home, but I go out to my clients and teach them how to use their computer. I work from home, because I design websites. I work from home, because I build databases. A friend of mine works from home, becuase she is a child minder. Do I need to go on? There ain't no one out there who is going to say 'Hey, I have a great homeworking job for you, that'll suit you right down to the ground!' without know what YOU want to do. Come on Suli .... what do YOU want to do. To me .... this is a support site .... not a job centre! | ||
| cmit |
I understand what you are saying but you are also missing the point. This website/forum does not provide a base for opportunities for people who reside in the uk who wish to work from home. It is not meant to. It is a flagship for the site owners and it is down to them to explain why the site is here. There are other sites which may be of interest, federation of small businesses, or the telecottage association. Both also fail their membership and I will be happy to supply details on request. cmit | ||
| caroline |
Hi Thank you all for your comments and feedback. Most interesting and useful. Some points that have been raised are issues that I have been considering for a while so this discussion here will help. Wizzweb is absolutely correct in saying that Homeworking.com is a support site. There is an opening paragraph on the Home Page which states: It should also be remembered that there is no charge or payment required for using this website and benefiting from the information or support on offer. In answer to the following points made by Colin A thesis can be written on the subject of homeworkers and the definition of homeworking and is too long to discuss here but Wizzweb raised some good general points above in response and I'll add that there are many people thinking they are looking for 'homeworking' when in fact it is better that they raise their sights to 'work at home' rather than work that is often exploitative. The Rogues Gallery?! This is a bit of fun for regular Forum users. Hmm. Interesting you should see it like that. I disagree, but I can see what you are getting at. Once you get nearer the stage of setting up a successful business then it is time to invest in yourself and join the relevant organisations, buy the books, get specialist advice from government funded bodies etc. You can't expect to get all that information for nothing from a free information and support site such as this, however, you will find plenty to get you started. OK. We used to have links to a definition and explanation of pyramid selling so the differences can be clearly seen. I'll check it out. However, no one website can provide the answer to everything for everyone, as much as I'd like this one to, which is why search engines are a good thing! I would like to make the point that no-one is paid to produce, run or contribute to this website. I am constantly impressed by the great contributors to this Forum and the help and support that they provide freely and with goodwill. The Specialists who give of their time are excellent and invaluable and are also volunteering their time, just like me. Any advertising revenue helps towards the hard costs of web space, software, etc. Feedback from others is also welcomed but please remember what I have said above and to keep it constructive. Your points are valued and valid and could be taken on board. Best wishes Caroline Editor - Homeworking.com | ||
| suews |
I'm intrigued by some of these messages. 1. Where does this idea of a 'flagship' come from? A 'flagship' for what??? I do know another homeworking website that set itself up especially to promote other services, but I happen to know that this website was set up purely as a free service with the highest of ideals. In fact, I have been known to nag the founder to make some money out of all the work she put into H.com - but to no avail!! 2. It's a sad truth that people don't value what they don't pay for. I suggest that all this valuable information on the forum be password-protected, that there's a membership fee and that you pay extra for the content on the website. 3. If everyone knew about the scams and how to avoid them, scamsterrs wouldn't still be touting their wares, now would they?!!! 4. Have you actually read all the resources on the website?? There are major sections on getting started, on finding work and on the practicalities - and you don't even pay the price of a book for it. In fact, I counted 59 sections in the main index One section includes 40 case studies of people who have found ways of working from home and/or at home. Now there's a success story or two!! http://www.homeworking.com/library/librar.htm There are also over 50 homeworking and income- generating ideas with links to further information - and an enormous list of additional suggestions (well over 200) to act as prompts to inspire you. http://www.homeworking.com/library/contact.htm If you can't find anything amongst that lot, and you've found no joy with other websites, Business Link, Small Business Service, employment and disability websites, etc then you need to think carefully about how realistic your aspirations are - and whether you've actually learnt anything about the homeworking market from what you've read!! A great saying I came across recently : "If you fight reality, you lose - but only always"!! If you are waiting for your knights in shining armour, you'll be waiting a very long time. Work out your ideal solution, then you can go out (metaphorically!) and get it!!! You'd be amazed just how quickly the opportunities pile up once you've really (really!) decided what you want. Finally, this site was set up when there was nothing else like it around. Caroline Tresman is an innovative, compassionate and extremely hard-working leader in the field of homeworking and has set incredibly high standards for herself and this resource. In the course of producing the website, she found her own ideal homeworking niche in the world of IT - she's a success story herself - but she still takes time out to keep up with things on this site so that we can all benefit from it. I toast her generosity of spirit, her ethics and the many hours that have gone into producing this brilliant resource. Cheers! Sue Wentworth-Sheilds www.brilliantissimo.co.uk | ||
| b2bscott |
Suli: I am your response from the USA! Caroline has put lots of effort into building a site designed with guidance and counseling for the homeworker and potential homeworker. She has recruited professionals in their field (myself included) to help guide and respond to visitors who come here out of curiosity and/or desperation. We are not paid personnel. We are volunteers who are willing to assist any and all visitors to this site. The guidance and advice you receive here is not readily available elsewhere in this format or for this price (free). It is our intention to facilitate your goals through identification of skills and the providing of information and expertise - rather than assigning a place in the homeworker's world to you. I, for one, would prefer to ask provocative questions that are designed to start the visitor on a path of skill identification and work development. No one can tell you what work is great or appropriate for you and your unique personality...and none of us would even try to guess at it! Personally, I have responded to USA visitors as well as general questions from UKers. As a matter of fact, I always give my email address to those who are inquiring about USA related matters or about my profession in general. This thread carries part of a lengthy article that I sent to Caroline on the topic of writing. I was happy to do it. I am hoping it is a helpful piece to those who contacted me and did not receive an immediate response. Sometimes my emailbox gets jammed with inquiries. I grouped many inquiries together and wrote that article so that all my contacts could have the benefit of a range of questions and answers on the one topic. This brings another point to mind: The crew that Caroline has assembled here for your benefit are folks who truly work-at-home and/or work-from-home. We lurk in the background and read every posting on this board. We do this to help others. It's a labor of love - our compensation comes in having a visionary as a leader and people who are specialists in their own field as friends. All of us are committed to the visitors and contribute to the threads that have formed on this message board. I hope you realize that we are trying to help you develop your own work and we do not wish to be an employment agency or headhunting placement service. (Although, if you are very people-oriented, this would be a great home business to develop!!) If you have any further concerns or questions that I can answer for you, please feel free to express them here. Julie USA Assistant Moderator | ||
| suli |
hi suli here, maybe i rattled a few nerves. Hence i would like to state a few points, maybe i was a bit hasty in what i said, for that i apologise. As for all this feedback, that somehow my message was intended to be an insult to caroline is absolutely incredulous and false. I for one more than most appreciate , regognise and thank her for the amount of important facts and hard work she has put in. So to you caroline i apologise if somehow it was construed by a few people that i was insulting you. Which again i state was not the case. In this paragraph i hope i have answered the theories given by julie and sue. Your opinion was constructive, but i do feel you have taken things out of context and made a big meal out of matters. Again if i somehow offended you i regret what i said and wholeheartedly apologise. Another matter i want to state is to wizzweb, i found your message a bit patronising, you seem to state that i have some personal vendatta or chip on my shoulder, which isn't the case, your phrases of going out in the big nasty world, you have to go looking, its not going to fall in you lap etc. I found those comments very distasteful. I will tell you this, i have been to •••• and back through my life, things that most people would not be able to cope with, so yes i have been out and seen that world. Again though i apologise if somehow things were taken out of context. All i wanted, and maybe i could have put it better originally was to convey a bit constructive criticism, wether i was right or wrong. As colin did touch. Expressing your opinion and sometimes putting forward some criticism, in my opinion can improve things, that goes for life generally, input- output with the feedback you receive- you improve, it is the basic principal in any customer, reader, listener form. Anyway concluding i apologise for the storm i created, i apologise to everyone especially caroline, keep up the good work, believe i am grateful for the superb work you have put in on this website, and i hope we can all work together, to make this website even more successful. THANKYOU SULI | ||
| jayeffdee |
Now, wasn't that a good thread? Have pondered long and hard, over making any comment re this but feel that not to respond would be contrary to my decision to subscribe to these forums. First off, as a newbie here, have had great pleasure in reading the complete shebang. Found most of the contributions to be in keeping with the "Support" aspect. Suli, don't feel obliged to apologise - you felt you had a comment to make, you made it - isn't that what Forums are all about? If people misconstrued your message - so what? You knew what you meant. By the way, I think you just might have misconstrued the reply from 'WizzWeb' ;o) Am intrigued as to what might motivate Colin - obviously not Homeworking.com! It would be fair to say that lots of membership sites [TCA included - though I found it quite enjoyable and helpful] could be classed as 'failing' their membership - realy depends on what the member wants from the site, and, more importantly, what they put in! For example, I was most dischuffed when Elance decided to "Go Commercial Only";o) Perhaps Colin might feel inclined to provide his interpretation of MLM / Pyramid - as a supportive gesture, as, no doubt, this subject STILL confuses a lot of people. As for Homeworking.com, I see it as being just what it purports to be - a Starting Point, albeit a well thought-out one, offering advice, information and support to those wishing to WORK FROM HOME. I purposely use this phraseology as opposed to "Homeworking" - I too have been down the "Homework" road!! [Anyone need any scrap paper with, often badly typed, "How to..." on one side? - or, indeed, some perfectly formed wooden rocking chairs, or even painted cottages? [both items returned as "Failed our Quality Assurance Dept.] To round off the 'rant' - must tell you that I spent some "Quality Time" in Louth!![Halcyon days of youth!] Now the bad news - I like this site, so to paraphrase 'Arnie' - "I'll be back!" Look forward to hearing from you ALL! Regards, Jay | ||
| suews |
Ah, a misspent youth in Louth, eh! Welcome to the Forum! I see you have quite a portfolio of work you do from/at home under the umbrella of Virtual Assisting. Congratulations. I've just surprised myself by actually finding and employing a wonderful VA - yet another stage in developing a business ie having too much work to handle alone AND having enough money coming in to pay for the support. It takes you back to zero again but one takes the plunge with the longer term in mind. Do "be back"! All the best Sue | ||
| suli |
jay, you sound like a very interesting person, everything you stated was bang on. So what exactly do you do? ( virtual assisting) what does it entail? suli ps whereabouts are you based? | ||
| jayeffdee |
Suli, Firstly, "Thank you Ma'am! It would appear, after reading your kind comment, that my Writing / Copywriting skills are still there then! I'm located just outside Glasgow - now. Most of my "working life" was either in the Greater London area or overseas. Virtual Assisting - could be compared to 'Dogsbodying' - if there is such a word;o). Seriously, I offer and provide a range of experience related support services to a small [hopefully expanding] client base]. Will this suffice? My profile or Free Classifieds listing will give you access to my website address - from whence you can draw your own conclusions and, if necessary, revise your assumption relating to my "seeming to be an interesting person ;o)" I also have two (on-going) Close Protection Assignments - my daughters call it baby-sitting! Thanks again, Jay | ||
| suli |
does anyone still use this website, i've been abroad for a few months, yet my message was the last one. Anyone outthere? | ||
| caroline |
Hi Suli Welcome back! If you click on "Last Week" at the left of the page, just under "Discussion", you will find the latest messages for just the last few days. We never did have many posters to this Forum even though we have an average of 1,000 visitors per day so a Forum is not indicative of visitor numbers Cheerio for now Caroline Founder and Editor Homeworking.com | ||
| suli |
thanks caroline. | ||
| sunnie12 |
hi i am new to the board,mum with 2 girls and i am looking for any ideas on homeworking.i have looked on other boards on different websites a few people told me about chatline operators anyone got any ideas on how to get into this line of work.any advice welcome. sunnie12 | ||
| dthomas |
Hi Sunnie 12, I am currently working as a chat operator and work about 27 hours a week for £100 in the UK. Its not that well paid, however, it gives me time to work on business ideas and to study. Its a difficult area to get into and I obtained my current position by being on a waitlist for 4 months! If you would like a contact address please email and I shall send it across to you. Kind regards David Thomas <Email address removed by Homeworking.com> | ||
| spatel6549 |
Hello, Great to be here! There is a new company called <spam url cut by Homeworking.com> and they are paying real good money for downloading and running a free software on your machine. The software is so small that you hardly know that it's there but it pays good money. I am averaging $1,500 USD a month in my Paypal account. Hey, it's enough to pay my mortgage. I have been with them for about 3 months now. I can go on and on but if you feel that you could use some extra cash for letting your machine do the work then visit them at <spam url cut by Homeworking.com> Cheers and God Bless! | ||
| gfk |
"There is a new company called PlugUsIn4Cash.com and they are paying real good money for downloading and running a free software on your machine" Chinny reckon they are. What exactly do they get out of it? How do THEY afford to pay YOU? How do they make money? What service do they provide? What do they sell? Rose-tinted spectacles?? Sorry. I've visited that link you're posting everywhere in this forum and its got all the hallmarks of those horrible pyramid schemes that we've all seen a thousand times before, and I can't do enough to drum it into people that these things should be avoided. There's only one way to make money in life (apart from turning to a life of crime), and that's to work for it. | ||
| cindy36 |
Hi, My name's Cindy. I'm 20years old and just had my first child. I'm looking to start work from home but am totally lost!! I wouldn't have the first clue how to get started. I live in Louth, Lincs and have only been here about a year so the areas fairly new to me too! I'm qualified in typing and word processing but am looking any type of legitimate work. Can anyone help?? Thanks Cindy | ||
| lucy |
Right, I'm new. I'm not expecting any work-at-home stuff to fall into my lap because I've been looking into this ever since I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and therefore I'm pretty convinced any work-at-home things offered anywhere is bunk. I'm also pretty convinced that if you're going to do any work-at-home stuff, you either need to get it worked out through your current employer or start up your own business. Nothing else will work. I have no degrees or anything official, but I have taught myself every job I've ever done, and excelled at it. I've worked for attorneys, for writers, and in libraries doing internet searches. Now, seems to me that internet research is a pretty viable job market, especially in the UK where computers and the internet still haven't quite caught on yet. My husband is a programmer for IBM and even he can't find his way round the net like I can. When I worked in a public library I was the ONLY person who knew my way around the internet, seeking out information that other people couldn't find. It turned out to be the same at the law firms - if they wanted some information, send "LuCy" to find it. I'd have it for them within a half-hour. Now, this may be a possibility for a work at home thing; seeking out research and putting together a written summary of the information one has found. From my IP secretarial days, this sort of thing is vital for finding previous patents or prior art, or for finding the who.is information for filing a domain name. I've known law firms that couldn't be bothered tracking this stuff down for themselves and would often "send out" for it. However, this isn't the only application I can think of for this sort of research work. No, I'm not offering a job, nor am I going to say this is a tried and true idea - but it is something I've had knocking around in my brain for the past few months and, as I'm expecting in October and my chances of ever going back to work part time are nil, I know I better think something up work-wise, or we're going to be raising a family on one income, and that's impossible these days. If anyone has any other input or ideas, perhaps would like to kick a few more ideas around, then welcome to it. Maybe we can all benefit | ||
| synergygirrl |
Hi Caroline, I wanted to just a bit to try to explain to anyone that is confused as to the difference between a pyramid and multi-level marketing. Here goes: Pyramid Schemes What is a Pyramid Scheme? Have you ever received a chain letter that asked you to mail one dollar to the top person on the list and to send the letter to 10 friends? If so, you were solicited for an illegal pyramid scheme. Pyramid schemes are illegal money-making ventures for individuals, businesses, and small groups of people. A typical pyramid scheme involves a few individuals at the top who recruit participants who, in turn, recruit other participants to offer something of value (usually money, but in some cases, time) to the organization. Recruits are offered the promise of large sums of money if they successfully bring in others to pay money to join the pyramid. Pyramid schemes focus on the exchange of money and recruitment. Usually, there is no legitimate product being sold. How are Pyramid Schemes Disguised? Pyramid schemes may be disguised as gift clubs, games, chain letters, buying clubs, motivational companies, mail order operations, or investment organizations. Although some pyramid schemes call themselves multi-level marketing operations, not all multi-level marketing companies are pyramids. The sale of legitimate products is what distinguishes multi-level operations from pyramids. When the emphasis is on recruiting new members rather than selling something of value the organization is probably an illegal pyramid. How do Pyramid Schemes Work? Basically, a pyramid scheme is formed when a single promoter (or small group of promoters) collects money from a certain number of "friends" and instructs them to collect more money from more of their "friends." The cycle goes on from there. As the pyramid grows, the number of people involved becomes too large to sustain the pyramid. Some people will fail to send in their money, or recruit the required number of "friends," and the pyramid crumbles. The majority of people end up on the "bottom" of the pyramid and inevitably will lose their initial "investment." They won't get their money back or earn their promised fortune because no one is beneath them in the pyramid adding new money to the pot. Why do Pyramid Schemes Fail? Pyramid schemes collapse when a few people drop out or refuse to pay, and new members are not recruited in their place. In order for a pyramid scheme to profit, there would have to be a never-ending supply of potential (and willing) participants. In reality, however, the supply of participants is limited, and each new level of participants has less chance of recruiting others and a greater chance of losing money. How a Typical Pyramid is Organized A simple pyramid - for example, a five level program built on recruitment by fours - might work like this: * A new recruit would pay $100 to "join" the organization. * That money would then be disbursed at regular intervals by the company - $25 to the recruiter, $25 to the company, and $50 to the recruiter's "upline" in the form of $10 payments to the recruiter's recruiter, and so on through five levels. * The new recruit would recover the $100 "fee" by recruiting four more people, each of whom would pay the recruiter $25. * From this point a participant would then make money from all recruiting done by the four recruits and their recruits. * Assuming successful recruiting by four people down through each of five levels, a participant could (but probably never will) make a cumulative total of $54,560: 1. $160 on the first level - e.g., four people each recruiting four others at $10 a person (4x4=16 x $10=$160); 2. $640 on the second level - e.g., 16 people each recruiting four persons at $10 each (16x4=64 x $10=$640); 3. $2,560 on the third level (64x4=256 x $10); 4. $10,240 on the fourth level (256x4=1024 x $10); 5. $40,960 on the fifth level (4x1024=4096 x $10). 6. $54,560 total ($160+$640+$2,560+$10,240+$40,960) Pyramid Reality * Pyramids are illegal. Because pyramid sales plans are by their very nature deceptive, they are illegal. There is a real risk that a pyramid operation will be closed down by police and the participants subject to fines and possible arrest. * Pyramids are deceptive. Participants in a pyramid, whether they mean to or not, are deceiving those they recruit. Few would pay to join if the odds stacked against them were fully explained. * Pyramids are losers. Pyramid Schemes are based on simple mathematics: many losers pay a few winners. * Pyramids inevitably collapse because it is mathematically impossible to recruit the numbers of people required to support the pyramid. A nine-level pyramid, which is built when each participant gets six "friends" to join, would involve over ten million people! 6 36 216 1,296 7,776 46,656 279,936 1,679,616 10,077,696 Why Would Anyone Pay to Join a Pyramid? Pyramid promoters are masters of group psychology. At recruiting meetings they create a frenzied, enthusiastic atmosphere where group pressure and promises of easy money play upon people's greed and fear of missing a good deal. It is difficult to resist this kind of appeal unless you recognize that the scheme is rigged against you. Multi-level Marketing Companies Multi-level marketing companies differ from pyramid schemes because they are usually legitimate business opportunities. The sale of legitimate products is what distinguishes multi-level marketing operations from pyramids. If the emphasis in a multi-level marketing company is to build a sales force rather than sell the company's products, it may be an illegal pyramid. The Difference Between Pyramid Schemes and Multi-level Marketing Many pyramid promoters attempt to make their schemes look like a multi-level marketing company by using a line of near-worthless products or newsletters and claiming to be in the business of selling them. In pyramid schemes, little or no effort is made to actually market the products. Often there is not even an established market for the products. Rather the "sale" of such merchandise is used as a front for the transactions which occur only among and between the operation's distributors. In pyramid schemes, the emphasis in the sales pitch is on recruiting - building up the organization and the number of participants and on collecting the "start up" fee - not on selling the products. Pyramid schemes want to make money from you, not the product sales. Pyramid Scheme vs. Multi-level Marketing * Compensation based on recruiting vs. Compensation based on sales * Few or no sales to consumers vs. Sell legitimate products to established markets * Substantial start-up costs vs. Generally small start-up fee * Potential to be stuck with large amounts of unsold goods vs. Will buy back unsold goods if you decide to quit the business * Make money from you vs. Make money with you I hope this information is helpful. I can understand that it can be difficult to want to work from home, and yet not be able to. But whether you choose to sign on with a MLM or create your own business, or even find a nice company that will allow you to work from you home - the success level will only be determined by what you put into it. There is no get rich quick path to journey down. And unfortunately there are a lot of schemes out there. Best of luck to those of you looking, Barbara http://synergyworldwide.faithweb.com |
